HND Holders Threaten Court Action Over Discrimination

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 16:00:25 GMT by OluGabriel

Poly & uni. Are one. But everybody shld be given a level playing ground, so dat we'll stop promoting mediocrity. Am proudly product of the Fed Poly Ado-Ekiti, Ekiti state. The cert shldnt be the bone of contention rather the IQ! One Nigeria! Unity will stand divided will fall. Up Nigeria!

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 17:00:33 GMT by Jee

@paroman u hav said it all, difference is clear.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 17:29:49 GMT by mankimd

well u guys should stop all this HND stuff,my wife is a Bsc holder even she finished before me due to strike, but the funny thing there is I have worked in two companies and I left not that I was sacked but because there was no challenge. presently am with Air tel as a power engineer and currently training some engineers which Bsc holders are among them so please close this issue

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 18:05:23 GMT by James

Well, it is quiet unfortunate that corruption in the country brought about the dichotomy between HND holders and B.Sc holders. I am a HND holder from Federal Polytechnic, Ede, Osun State, and I must tell you that, my Lecturers were very good. in my department alone, I had five Ph.D holders and M.Sc at least that lectured me. I am a Microbiologist from the Polytechnic, I challenge my colleagues from university to come let's go to microbial world. It depend on the school you attended and the stuff in you that determines your academic prowess.I can confidently handle any microbiological techniques which most B.Sc holders can't. Nevertheless, everybody can't attend the same kind of institution, so FG should remove this barrier.. Kudos to all graduates but remember your HND/B.Sc may not make you great but what you have in you. thank you.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 18:37:55 GMT by John

@paroman, poly vs Uni , i think has very little to do with spoken English, i would have thought that should be adjudged on individual bases, when i went to Yabatech i had a credit and above in all subjects almost an A in English and Maths and i was straight out out of school, had admission to study computer science at the university, but i choose engineering at the poly, trusting that the government knew what they where saying when they said equivalent, Jonathan and your leaders have various university degree , how has there research knowledge helped Nigeria, and who told you having lots of professors in the university means better knowledge, a masters is the pinnacle of a particular degree, phd is just about a smaller topic which might not be taught as a course, look even in the UK all lecturers in the Universities that discovered solutions that make life easier for you today are not phd holders, how do you quantify industry experience, dont you know it has a role in research , dont you know that the world is dynamic, and perceptions are changing very rapidly, what have you the almighty Nigerian bsc graduates been able to design, planes?, drones? robots? almost nothing plus all your professors, for your record, only National diploma holders are trained to work with their hands, HND holders are technologists, not bolt and nut men, also note that the major academic evaluation body in the USA a country far wiser than Nigeria and more knowledgeable, has adjudged almost all nigeria HND certificate evaluated as equivalent to a US degree, your research professors and government wont see that, because their brains are blocked, all they want is to keep a set of people at the bottom of the society because you feel you went to the uni and that automatically make you boss, i also went to the uni and have a degree, whats the ranking of the best university in Nigeria on the world scale, first 1000?
in fact if government still takes the illiterate stand that HND is lower than BSC then it should be reduced to 3 Years and then it can be a bolt and nut qualification, note HND in the UK is 2 years and also issued by Universities.
have you even asked your self if it how someone can study for five years including one year and four months of industrial training and then you say he is middle level, no other country is doing that,when i was at yabatech i saw exam questions from 300 level from a University at my HND 1 level and it was very easy i could even pass without need to study for it, if youve not been to a polytechnic, do a proper research not judging from what your naive policy makers right, wait till someone with a normal brain gets into goverment and see if paper will matter more or competence

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 19:12:59 GMT by john

@ Izundu,i attended yabatech, and all youve said is false, a good graduate should be able to research before making public comments, maybe its at your uni your professors where handing out 30 pages as course material,@ panoma, NCE is a professional teaching qualification, i will employ an NCE holder to teach my child , a masters is over qualified and not needed in a kids brain, also note that how to teach is also a skill that all MSC holders dont have , i studied for a masters in the university that developed the fastest internet connection in the world, and it does not qualify me to teach in that field till you get an additional teachers training, also note that poly lecturers have a course outline to teach to, makes no much difference if a professor or doctor is teaching it, what matters is a sound knowledge and rich industry experience, else you become an almost impotent lecturer, many students found themselves in the poly because there was a capacity problem and private universities were out of reach to their parents, youre not better than anyone.
wait till a reasonable person takes over government.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 19:58:29 GMT by Benjamin Omaye

Bsc is not the issue. What do you use the Bsc for? As a Partner in an Accounting firm, I will rather employ a good Lower Credit candidate from the polytecnic than a Bsc holder with first class certificate. I can only speak for accounting graduates. Go to ICAN and comfirm the success rates between HND and Bsc holders respectively. HND is on top. Avoid sentiment and let us face the reality on the ground. My two years of professional accounting work has bought me closed to many Bsc and HND holders in my profession. HND is perfect. Universities have to work harder on thier students. Many of them I have met could not pass simple journals not to talk of the bank reconciliation statement that somebody was mentioning earlier. In practice, Bsc can not compare with HND. What we have now is a default in the policy that should be corrected.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 20:30:08 GMT by malcolm chuks

Such discussions abt Bsc n HND has been raised once...and 10 of both was put to test on same course of study n level....the HND's came first 4....the facts..no poly student dreamt of being a HND holder...I see no reason why these BSC holders brag....let them be sincere...how many of them wrote that Jamb...Waec with their heads?..yet you come n brag abt being the best...check most companies...HND holders are the pillars...talking of experience...these Polythecnic student undergo a lot of scrutiny to get their scores...practicals even during I.T....being the best is the individual and not what he or she was thought....the truth is...the discrimination in HND has always made them better as they all strive to get the best scores to get higher...think abt it....

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 21:11:30 GMT by Paul

U guys re very funny o, hahahaha, luk at d way u re insulting yourselves.This ur indulgence in d argument dat d almighty B.Sc should be made equal to HND. It's disruptive.it wil be absurd to do so.Hw on earth can HND dat's only recognised here in Nigeria be made equal to a qualification dat's recognised world wide? Pls holders of HND, if i should say sth i would advice u to keep calm bcos d deed has already been done.Establishment of uni nd poly by d FG has unarguable purposes bt justifiable reasons nd dia is nothing we can do about it. Uni has a better advantage over poly, we can't get it until we calm down nd make a research 4 it. We re individuals wit different academic abilities nd creative skills nd shld stp saying dat poly students nd graduates re beta dan uni students nd graduates. The names alone re evidence of apparent descripancy. I'm a B.Sc holder nd i knw it worth world wide,therefor,all HND holders should go nd upgrade dia qualifications if u don't want to be discriminated nd marginalized in d public service.Thank u nd less d noise.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 21:27:23 GMT by adex

For Dos HND holders bragging, im sure if u had ur way den, u will surely go to University without thinkin twice. Do u pray dat all ur children wil end up in Polytechnic. pple lik u will do everythin within ur capacity in makin sure dat non of ur children go to poly. Everybody is good dependin on individual's intelligence and self develoment.
I wanna say to poly products to pls in d name of God to further their individual career either masters or P.hd in Polytehnics. Since u detest univ products, do not step ur feet into univ environment for anything. Keep with ur poly things.

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 22:13:55 GMT by samydgreat

In all of these argument,i see dat it is jst difficult for d HND holders to accept fact.. I am nt good @ discriminating but dis is an obvious fact... U cant in anyway compair d quality of Education to dat of a University but d ideal is dat how good u r depends on hw much u put into studie personally.... As for u dat talks ab@ practical hands on jobs,u may b very correct as i see ur point fron d view of long term of Exposure but dat does nt mean u r in any way better dan a university graduate. I argue dis from d point of view dat an Electrician on a a job for 15years will do better dan a university or poly graduate. Dis is nt bcos he is better but bcos he has been expose to d job for a very long time.. But bliv me,if he (i mean d Electrician) is subject to dat same work he has been in for a long time wit an eligthened man,i tell u in less dan 2 years, he can nt stand d ground of d eligthened man.This is bcos he can nt add new ideals to dat job... Now i tell u a poly graduate u tink is beter on practical work cos of his long exposure to d job,but subject a uni graduate and a poly graduate to a job for same period of time,it is no boubt a uni graduate will do far far beter cos deir are many principles he knws and will apply wen on field dat a poly grad dont knw and cant apply... Also to further argue my point, i worked in a lecture houx dis year with poly graduate in preparing student for SSCE and JAMB.. I tell u wen ever i v a divided class wit the poly graduate (for example wen i am in a jamb Physics class and the poly graduate r in an SSCE maths class),most of d SSCE student snikes to join d jamb class nt cos i ws d best but cos poly graduate lacks good compuational/analysis strength... S it is sad to hear HND holders trying to equalize wit B.sc holders.I tink the poly graduate can make dis arguement cos it is quit unfurtunate in hw some unigraduate make deir way out of d university..is a pity on dem anyway.i will nt disput d fact dat deir r some good poly graduate but u cant measure up it a university graduate of dat standard dats d truth.. I almost read out my life bfor i counld make a second class upper and d truth is dat a distintion graduate cant stand my ground in Electrical analysis though i may nt even measure up pratically wit a road side Electrician wic prove d difference a long stay on a job can cause.... I love all inteligent people

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 22:16:20 GMT by samydgreat

In all of these argument,i see dat it is jst difficult for d HND holders to accept fact.. I am nt good @ discriminating but dis is an obvious fact... U cant in anyway compair d quality of Education to dat of a University but d ideal is dat how good u r depends on hw much u put into studie personally.... As for u dat talks ab@ practical hands on jobs,u may b very correct as i see ur point fron d view of long term of Exposure but dat does nt mean u r in any way better dan a university graduate. I argue dis from d point of view dat an Electrician on a a job for 15years will do better dan a university or poly graduate. Dis is nt bcos he is better but bcos he has been expose to d job for a very long time.. But bliv me,if he (i mean d Electrician) is subject to dat same work he has been in for a long time wit an eligthened man,i tell u in less dan 2 years, he can nt stand d ground of d eligthened man.This is bcos he can nt add new ideals to dat job... Now i tell u a poly graduate u tink is beter on practical work cos of his long exposure to d job,but subject a uni graduate and a poly graduate to a job for same period of time,it is no boubt a uni graduate will do far far beter cos deir are many principles he knws and will apply wen on field dat a poly grad dont knw and cant apply... Also to further argue my point, i worked in a lecture houx dis year with poly graduate in preparing student for SSCE and JAMB.. I tell u wen ever i v a divided class wit the poly graduate (for example wen i am in a jamb Physics class and the poly graduate r in an SSCE maths class),most of d SSCE student snikes to join d jamb class nt cos i ws d best but cos poly graduate lacks good compuational/analysis strength... S it is sad to hear HND holders trying to equalize wit B.sc holders.I tink the poly graduate can make dis arguement cos it is quit unfurtunate in hw some unigraduate make deir way out of d university..is a pity on dem anyway.i will nt disput d fact dat deir r some good poly graduate but u cant measure up it a university graduate of dat standard dats d truth.. I almost read out my life bfor i counld make a second class upper and d truth is dat a distintion graduate cant stand my ground in Electrical analysis though i may nt even measure up pratically wit a road side Electrician wic prove d difference a long stay on a job can cause.... I love all inteligent people

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 22:34:05 GMT by Obinwa paul amaobichukwu.

I'm d writer of post 59. I hv B.Sc in Environmental Resource Management-(ERM). I did my six months industrial training wit a quality firm like warri refinery nd petrochemical co operation ekpan warri, a subsidiary of NNPC. Durring my industrial training period, i spent 2months in each of diz departments; Fire, Safety nd Environmental pollution control department.prior to d completion of our I.T, we wrote anoda exam in WRPC auditorium 4 anoda professional safety course which participated nd was later certificated as a trained safety personnel. Sincerely, B4 we started d segmented training, we wrote an exam which large number of poly students couldn't make though d same happnd to uni students bt it wz a few of them. So stp dis impression dat poly students re beta dan uni students, it's vice versa which simply means dat it depends on individual okay nd stp diz ur poly knwledge of undstanding from deceiving u. My advice to our government officials in dia offices is to ignore d empty nd lost battle nois -court attempts HND holders re making as it is among d least of worries our country Nigeria has. I'm proud to say that i was lucky nd privileged enof to hving graduated from one of d best state universities in d eastern part of Nigeria wit an employable grade of result. Wow! ABSU Abia State. Faculty of Environmentals. Incase u need to knw more abt me, I'm Obinwa paul Amaobichukwu by name,fone:+2348034221380 Email:Obinwapaul@gmail.com

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 22:37:21 GMT by adaji victor john

im a ond holder in mass comm teaching a bsc holder of d same cause hw 2 handle camera as a potojournalist at public affair depmt in NNPC TOWER ABUJA so wht r we taulkin about i preffer compitent work,s dan big qulification

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 22:45:33 GMT by taiwofash

So many comments, God help us. Nevertheless, am a proud holder or HND in quntity surveying frm yabatech and am happy to av it. God bless Nigeria

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 23:02:36 GMT by Onwuka Peter Elijah

HND & B.Sc? They are of different pedigree. Both of them should have their own autonomy as degrees awarding institutions. B.Tech is B.Tech & B.Sc is B.Sc. When you obtain the former that shows that you passed through polytechnic, whereas when you obtain the latter that shows that you passed through university. As simple as that! Thats all!

Posted on Tue 13th May, 2014 23:44:42 GMT by Paul Obinwa. Alias Mobila Joka.

I Obinwa paul amaobichukwu, popularly known as MOBILA JOKA hereby advice doz HND holders who can't let us sleep, drink water nd drup cup to remain calm nd continue to use dat their nt globally acceptable - polytechnic mentality,poly blood nd academic short sightedness in their various work places nd stp causing public nuisance in d country jst bcos of their uncontrollable jealousy against B.Sc holders. If they want to change it, they should go nd look 4 pple like Nnamdi azikiwe,yakubu gowon,tafawa balewa in dia hwzes nd graves to come nd undo wot they did wit Britain nd nt wit his excellency oga jonathan. Hahahaha. Gbongbo klak! We hv nt settled bokoharam's frequent bomb blast nd painful kidnapping of our daughters nd sons, sisters nd brodas, nepews nd nices let alone this worthless arguments including dat their court attempt over d discrimination of HND in d public service. U can imagine sth dat has been dia from time immemorial, besides did anybody force them to pass tru poly ? Look if diz ur poly-mentality makes u behave like embecils u beta go nd upgrade ur senses in any uni of ur choice if u can. NONSENSE !

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 06:09:36 GMT by Marcus

Unemployment is the cause of this baseless argument. FG should try to make HND holders bold in the labour market. It sucks. It is painful. They are really sidelined upon the fact that they affect the economy of this country positively. Concience is an open wound, it is only truth that can heal it.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 06:26:12 GMT by Iyke

Pls HND holders are much more better wit pratical experience to perform meanwhile GNS in poly & uni are dsame dan Y Discrimination.HND holder less join hand 2gether fight 4 0ur Perority. HND s Better dan Bsc

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 06:49:42 GMT by Mimi

@ paroma y is it dat HND holders alwys perform well in d org ? Y is it dat most of dem alwys brilliant dan bsc holder eg in term of dere engineer and dem also got qualified easily dan Bsc holder, I tink professor lecture Bsc holder, do we see d impact of dere professor in them? See paroma it is only som1 dat we teach and teach himself we be able to achieve good tings in life nt some with attitude of bribery most university undergraduate do.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 07:08:18 GMT by Comr. John Uk Isaiah

Change is the only constant thing in life. The days of paper & title recognition will soon be over, atleast the world nw is crying of unemployment & govts are encouraging self reliance through enterprenuership & skill acquisition which is the core mandate of the polytechnic system and sign of equality blw hnd & degree. The era of what u obtain is gradually vanishing to what u can do with ur hands. HND or Degree is not even the problem nw bt the holder. I see our generation going back to the polytechnic system and gradually overlooking the degree which kept the nation backward. Govt are nw calling for the introduction of these technical courses in all schools, NYSC has introduced compulsory skill acquisition which can't be found in the university bt polytechnics. The question now is, can u be employed, can u create employment & can u sustain ur job? And not are a degree or hnd holder?
The music is on the discrimination will definately end bt gradually just as NEPA was privatized and sold out after several oppositions.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 07:10:47 GMT by Emmanuel

I think the difference between HND and BSC is quiet clear there is no way they shd expect the federal govt to put them on d same page.cos degree holders are more experience than hnd.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 07:16:15 GMT by Chia

My degree has no HND version, so, no basis 2 compare wit poly leavers. Alot of immature comments here; full of detestable lies, baseless statistics & incoherent articulations. Kudos 2 dos dat post d opposites of d abov description.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 08:31:49 GMT by olusola micheal

Can we all see how analyrical paroman was? We don't need pointless arguments here.I went to poly(laspo) and then a uni(unilorin), both have their strengths and weaknesses but just as paroman has summed it, I will never substitute for one another.
When you travel abroad, you'll see the clear indiscrimination especially in america cos they always wanna see wat u can do and not ur cert.I currently work in first bank and I gotta confess, amongst my peers and ma ogas. that hnd people are better on the job.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 15:15:31 GMT by Kelechi ( PDP)

Polytechnics don't give admission to Law Students who can easily do such course in Universitty with only credit level in English language and a pass level in Mathematics. but u cannot do Accounting in Polytechnic without having a credit level in both English language and Mathematics. Pls be guided!

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 20:11:18 GMT by Damilare

Noise everywhere. By the grace of God I tasted the two. And the way I read in Federal Poly Ede to make upper credit at OND, I didn't read half of it to make 2.1 in OAU. .......And neither Poly nor Uni was my read source of breakthrough in life. And now I can boldly say .....God thank you..... so why making noise??? Qualification and breakthrough are two different things. is it qualification you want in life or breakthrough? Continue making noise.........

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 20:28:31 GMT by coachee

we must know that HND is the best cos when i was serving 2011-2012, we were 4teaching in d same school nd students always complain d2university corpers wat's wrong? They could'nt stand and teach only giving notds. If our country needs d hornest? Let 4get broda, uncle nd relatn. Let write test and test our ability. I am a statiscian HND and am proud. HND HAVE WAT NIG OF 2DAY NEED. God bless nig and bringourgirlsback. 4ward ever

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 21:37:14 GMT by Demgotire

Bsc holders has every reason to brag bcos, if not d so called traders(HND holders) who collects 3k to write the so called degree exams for them, they woudnt have the mouth to say all these rubbish. Though i am a party to this.

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 21:44:09 GMT by Godfrey

I thank you all for the contributions concerning this issue of equating HND to Bsc, as a Nigerian let's be sincere to ourselves how many Bsc holder can boastfully say he/she graduated with something tangible to offer the nation practically and otherwise. look at our economy today the prime movers are the HNDs because they went to school and the school pass through unlike Bsc holder who could not enterprise for the family let alone the nation. Nigeria is dead because we neglect our technological schools and then believed in paper work. forget whether you did 4 subjects in jamb and polytechnic did 3 subjects the output is what matter not how you enters. thank you

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 21:49:21 GMT by Innocent

I really dont feel this is a matter to be debated on. What is the rational of establishing both institution and their respective requirements? I passed through both, the University produces high level manpower while the Polytechnics produces middle level manpower and technicians. So why equating two different qualifications from different curricullums? BSc & HND, these abbreviations no resemble na.....

Posted on Wed 14th May, 2014 22:00:53 GMT by Innocent

I really dont feel this is a matter to be debated on. What is the rational of establishing both institutions and their respective requirements? I passed through both, the University produces high level manpower while the Polytechnics produces middle level manpower and technicians. So why equating two different qualifications from different curricullums? BSc & HND, these abbreviations no resemble na.....

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 02:15:23 GMT by David

let's stop blindfolding ourself on the issue of the best.and paying of astronomical fee is not the case but what can you sucase.allow the true ring the bell, poly is best.

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 02:20:03 GMT by David

let's stop blindfolding ourself on the issue of the best.and paying of astronomical fee is not the case but what can you sucase.allow the true ring the bell, poly is the best.

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 09:39:03 GMT by ola

This is very funny, during my service year, we were called to carry out research in the camp, two poly grads were there, myself and a lady from kadploy, and four uni grads too, I told the lady they will prove themselves as the boss, and we will muck them to the core, they tried just simple correlation and contingency table they can't produce and make good result, they had to wait for us to come, what a pity, in poly to those of you that allow it to pass through you, you will read like tomorrow never come, you will do project like they promise to pay billions of dollars, I do ask why are we doing all these, I got to understand that when I got employed in the banking sector, I could remember very well that I wrote and suggest project for some university graduates back then during my ond days, great federal polytechnics ado ekiti, a school like 5 universities, do you think it's a joke when we were called to stand behind a class and write your waec and jambs? So, some of you now are bragging cos of ur BSC which was made possible by the polytechnics students. As a matter of fact, this discrimination is a mess, and a big shame to our labour market, no wonder why there are a lot of inferior product out there when a bsc holder is unable to make a proper decision without consulting the Internet, that I think should be the best is that, let the government allow the polytechnics to be awarding b.tech and leave the university to their bsc, stop the discrimination across all sectors, and let's wait and see the result.

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 16:58:26 GMT by ubong victor known as gee

u guys just need to know one thing in life , why are u people crying over spilt milk , Hnd or Bsc makes no different , the strength of a man lies in his brain , most richest and prominent men in the world never went to school yet they made it in life , dont deceive ur self saying i did not made it Bcos i am an Hnd graduate and dont be proud by saying i made it Bcos i am a Bsc GRADUATE , it all depends on individual , i have seen so many rich guys with Hnd making Good money in oil companies or self employed , and i have seen many bsc too , u all lack vision thats why u all are crying over spilt milk . U have to understand polytechnic is meant for all and university was meant for all too , if every one go to polytechnic who will go to the university . Thanks

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 16:59:46 GMT by ubong victor known as gee

u guys just need to know one thing in life , why are u people crying over spilt milk , Hnd or Bsc makes no different , the strength of a man lies in his brain , most richest and prominent men in the world never went to school yet they made it in life , dont deceive ur self saying i did not made it Bcos i am an Hnd graduate and dont be proud by saying i made it Bcos i am a Bsc GRADUATE , it all depends on individual , i have seen so many rich guys with Hnd making Good money in oil companies or self employed , and i have seen many bsc too , u all lack vision thats why u all are crying over spilt milk . U have to understand polytechnic is meant for all and university was meant for all too , if every one go to polytechnic who will go to the university . Thanks

Posted on Thu 15th May, 2014 21:21:15 GMT by Nestle Hr Manager

As a human resources manager in nestle we prefer HND holder dan Bsc holder , bcos Hnd holder contribute greatly to our profit in nestle, dat is y we dnt descriminate in nestle cos we dnt want paper qualification dat we run us down but we only need skills and experince people who can maximise our profit, confirm 2 check all our available vacancy we employed both bsc and hnd base on ur competent. Thank you all

Posted on Fri 16th May, 2014 16:11:10 GMT by A.C GODSON

I am an ND/ HND holder with Upper Credit Class respectively.Both HND and Bsc Engineering graduatesfrom different schools about 5O were Invited from Delta state polytechnic,UI Benin UNN Ekpoma Ekiti Port Harcourt in a firm Managed by Expertriates for interview/training,After two weeks we were to deliver a Seminar one after the other on the Analysis of Steel production plants Power Plants and Installations in the plant with much emphasis on details specification identification and processes.After the interview they were amazed and unable to ask me questions unlike others ,the Expertriate comfirmed before us that the Polytechnic graduates were the best ranked 1st to 17th before Bsc holders which the human resource holds me in high Esteem whenever we come accross.The country head and Human Resource Head Comfirmed I was the best and I was the talk of the Seminar.Initially I was intimidated by the racous boastings and blabbings of the Bsc Holders during training and have finished top ahead of many Bsc holders I have come accross during my job prospects.It is not about Bsc or HND that matters buts the individual graduate ,and what Value can You Offer to transform or add value to your Organization irrespective of your Qualification,or the Polytechnic/ University you Graduated from.We graduates of Bsc/HND should be Objective and not Bais. Bsc.should be ready to accept the Equality/Equivalence of HND that will soon come to stay .Employers should take note.You can call me on 08064549128.Nigeria is not better than Britain, Germany,USA that value HND as Bsc and granting direct Mastership programme oversees.HND Discrimination is an impending Revolution that is about to Explode in the Nigerian Civil service.Let us build Nigeria and stop bias Criticism.Technology/HND is ruling the world.let us not make blind Arguments but think,Act and Speak like Seasoned graduates.

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 08:14:09 GMT by Jansen

1t is high time we dropped qualifications and certificates and talk about d reflection of these certificate in our exposure in discipline, efficiency in carrying out job assignments, defence of what u possess, analysis, speech, manners, planning, management, control, etc.I opine Payment according to output and efficiency because some of these certificates are either falsified or obtained by dint of malpractices. VALEDICTORIAN HND MARKETING.

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 10:23:26 GMT by Better Nigeria

What I here is a bunch of idle minds who call themselves Bsc holders arguing for superiority of Bsc over HND. I do not blame, I blame the corrupt nation that give credence to a one-page paper called certificate, whether bought or earned, as against the best brains. Has any Bsc, B.eng or Btech holder asked himself why we inport even needles, why we cannot develop technologically, why Chinese OND/HND holders are senior Engineers in Nigeria, why Nigerian graduate engineer are not employable in establishment like shell, chevron mobil,etc where competence is the interest, why graduate engineers in Nigeria only end up in the civil service, why a degree holder should waste his useful time arguing and defending the superiority of Bsc over HND instead of trying to verify and put to practice those theories he wasted four or five years in the varsity cramming! To me, all these argument is a reflection of the emptiness of the brains....Let us move ahead for every holder of a certificate, be it Bsc or HND knows the coefficient of performance(cop) and correlation between himself and the certificate he is holding! For me, it is what you can offer that matters and not what you hold....

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 12:10:29 GMT by charles

My fellow Nigerians B.Sc and HND programme is designed for a purpose, that is for the development of our country Nigeria. Please answer this question for me who teaches the first teacher in the world? What we need our qualification for is to add meaningful development to our country and the world at large. If you are taller than me are you still shorter than me? That is a puzzle for you to deal with. Let's think positive not fighting our self. I am a product of the institutions and I no there is different in approach but to one end, that is development.

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 12:12:14 GMT by charles

My fellow Nigerians B.Sc and HND programme is designed for a purpose, that is for the development of our country Nigeria. Please answer this question for me who teaches the first teacher in the world? What we need our qualification for is to add meaningful development to our country and the world at large. If you are taller than me are you still shorter than me? That is a puzzle for you to deal with. Let's think positive not fighting our self. I am a product of the institutions and I no there is different in approach but to one end, that is development.

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 12:50:56 GMT by vic.Rex

U can't compare Polytechnic graduates with the University graduates. Polytechnic graduates are better than their University counterparts.
Put the University and the Polytechnic graduates on the same level playing ground during recruitment exercises and see who perform better.
I am a Polytechnic graduate with a Lower Credit who sat for an Aptitude Test with University graduates and Masters degree holders

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 13:19:25 GMT by Victor J

I am a Polytecnic graduate who graduated with a Lower Credit. Recently, we sat for an Aptitude Test with other University graduates with First Class and 2.1-some had Masters degree and i came out tops after the results were announced based on performance.We were over 500 applicants that applied only 15 made it to d second round of d interview process. At the end of the fourt round, only three of us qualified and were gainfully employed.
At my Post Graduate level , i was lecturing most of my class mates who never believed i graduated from a Polytechnic.
At my office, i top my team in terms of performance and job experience..My M.D can not o without me!
In a nutshell, my experience in the Polytechnic having gone through rigorous teachings, practicals and on-the-job exposures, i can compete anywhere with any University graduate without intimidation.The gap must be bridged! Mind you, i have six credits in WAEC& i am a graduate of Microbiology of The Federal Polytechnic, Bida , Niger State. Bida Standard! I am proud of my alma-mater.

Posted on Sat 17th May, 2014 20:57:20 GMT by tunde

there should not be argument about discrimination.Let there be a level playing ground for the holders of both HND and Bsc.Certainly,HND holders are more,better and doing well in professional exams compare to Bsc holders beside those in d medical profession.Organisations should start conducting same apptitude test for both HND and Bsc holders and lets see who would be getting jobs.I respect the HND holders.

Posted on Sun 18th May, 2014 01:00:50 GMT by chi-chi

I hav d both decree nd HND bt i prefare my HND cus i can defend it both pratically nd theoritically. Now when i was in ND1 an IMSU decree holdercame for an interview but could not ans any question or identify any eqiption our HOD was mad nd ran into our class to ask us one questn nd we ansed her, she had to tell d lady to go bak home. So don conpare HND wit decree HND holders i d feel unaooooooooo......

Posted on Sun 18th May, 2014 01:07:49 GMT by vera

I hav d both decree nd HND bt i prefare my HND cus i can defend it both pratically nd theoritically. Now when i was in ND1 an IMSU decree holdercame for an interview but could not ans any question or identify any eqiption our HOD was mad nd ran into our class to ask us one questn nd we ansed her, she had to tell d lady to go bak home. So don conpare HND wit decree HND holders i d feel unaooooooooo...... Secondly is bcus of decree holders dat is leadind us dats y we ar still where we ar today. Brain okuko

Posted on Sun 18th May, 2014 12:09:44 GMT by akindele

Quiet pls. Some of u av nt eaten while u engage urself in dis and u still want to waste d little u av in ur stomach. Will dis arguement stop curruption dat has brought all dis. Both are trained for different and specific assignment. Let's tackle curruption first....

Posted on Sun 18th May, 2014 12:15:17 GMT by akindele

Quiet pls. Some of u av nt eaten while u engage urself in dis and u still want to waste d little u av in ur stomach. Will dis arguement stop curruption dat has brought all dis. Both are trained for different and specific assignment. Let's tackle curruption first....

Posted on Sun 18th May, 2014 13:12:14 GMT by optafol

The fact still remains dat, the expirence of a Polytechnic Grauduate can never be compared wit the so call BSC Holders, becuase u can't compare some one wit pratical expirence wit one wit paper expirience, pls my dear BSC holders, how many of u can com out proudly dat at ur lever (BSC)in accountancycan prepare a Final Account of a company. Pls come out proudly to say it and I shall challenge u wit some questions